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#1 OklaHiker

 
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Posted 25 July 2006 - 11:45 AM

Is bear spray necessary in the backcountry of RMNP? I'll be above tree line quite a bit, so I don't expect to see too many bears, but is it something I should put on the "must get" list before visiting? I realize it could help ward off an angry bear, but it's not cheap.

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Posted 25 July 2006 - 12:02 PM

QUOTE (OklaHiker @ Jul 25 2006, 11:45 AM)
Is bear spray necessary in the backcountry of RMNP? I'll be above tree line quite a bit, so I don't expect to see too many bears, but is it something I should put on the "must get" list before visiting? I realize it could help ward off an angry bear, but it's not cheap.

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I would say it's not necessary, but there's lots of different info and advise floating around on the subject. What I do know is that surprising a bear is the worst thing you can do. Hence the bear bells. I wear one of the annoying things when I'm hiking by myself. It's much more pleasant to hike with someone else and let conversation be the deterrent. If bears hear you coming, they will usually go out of their way to avoid you. But if alone, you may want to consider a bell. Spray couldn't hurt to have on hand, but you'd truly rather never need to use it. Here's a site with good info: Bear Encounters
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Posted 25 July 2006 - 12:16 PM

The bears in RMNP are friendly. They mean you no harm. They have kindly asked that you not spray them.
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Posted 25 July 2006 - 01:29 PM

I never have carried it and sadly, I've never seen a bear in RMNP. I do love this joke.

A ranger told a group of hikers that there were bear problems, and they should wear bells so bears know you are coming and carry pepper spray. It is also helpful to be able to recongize Black Bear scat vs. Grizzly scat. Black Bear scat is quarter sized, round and black. Grizzly scat has bells in it and smells like pepper.
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Posted 25 July 2006 - 02:10 PM

QUOTE (John @ Jul 25 2006, 01:29 PM)
I never have carried it and sadly, I've never seen a bear in RMNP.  I do love this joke.

A ranger told a group of hikers that there were bear problems, and they should wear bells so bears know you are coming and carry pepper spray. It is also helpful to be able to recongize Black Bear scat vs. Grizzly scat.  Black Bear scat is quarter sized, round and black.  Grizzly scat has bells in it and smells like pepper.



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Posted 25 July 2006 - 02:45 PM

QUOTE (slowpoke @ Jul 25 2006, 01:16 PM)
The bears in RMNP are friendly.  They mean you no harm.  They have kindly asked that you not spray them.


'Poke is one of the few forum regulars who has seen a bear in the park. They had a nice picnic down by Sprague Lake as I recall.
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Posted 25 July 2006 - 03:31 PM

Does bear spray also work against mountain lions or do I need to purchase a separate $50 can of mountain lion spray? caribou.gif
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Posted 25 July 2006 - 04:01 PM

Reminds me of a tee shirt I saw in South Dakota. It said something to the effect of

When hiking in bear country, always go with someone you can outrun
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Posted 25 July 2006 - 04:26 PM

QUOTE (OklaHiker @ Jul 25 2006, 04:31 PM)
Does bear spray also work against mountain lions or do I need to purchase a separate $50 can of mountain lion spray?  caribou.gif


I think mountain lions usually ambush from behind and/or above, so the mountain lion spray probably wouldn't work. I'd suggest wearing one of those medieval chain mail helmet things that extends down over your upper body. yup.gif
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Posted 25 July 2006 - 07:56 PM

QUOTE (DeeCeeM @ Jul 25 2006, 04:01 PM)
Reminds me of a tee shirt I saw in South Dakota.  It said something to the effect of

When hiking in bear country, always go with someone you can outrun



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Posted 25 July 2006 - 08:30 PM

QUOTE (retlod @ Jul 25 2006, 04:45 PM)
'Poke is one of the few forum regulars who has seen a bear in the park.  They had a nice picnic down by Sprague Lake as I recall.


Yeah man. As I was saying, the bears in RMNP are chill. They just wanna know what's up. Don't taunt them with food and stuff or chase after them. Bobo told me that he and his friends really hate that.
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Posted 25 July 2006 - 09:46 PM

QUOTE (DeeCeeM @ Jul 25 2006, 04:01 PM)
Reminds me of a tee shirt I saw in South Dakota.  It said something to the effect of

When hiking in bear country, always go with someone you can outrun


Or another variation on the theme

I don't have to out run the bear I just have to outrun You
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Posted 25 July 2006 - 11:51 PM

Now that is funny!!! roflmao.gif jester.gif rofl45.gif laugh.gif Darn good one!

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QUOTE (DeeCeeM @ Jul 25 2006, 03:01 PM)
Reminds me of a tee shirt I saw in South Dakota.  It said something to the effect of

When hiking in bear country, always go with someone you can outrun

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Posted 26 July 2006 - 06:54 AM

QUOTE (slowpoke @ Jul 25 2006, 08:30 PM)
Yeah man.  As I was saying, the bears in RMNP are chill.  They just wanna know what's up.  Don't taunt them with food and stuff or chase after them.  Bobo told me that he and his friends really hate that.


Ah, we have a bear whisperer among us!
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Posted 26 July 2006 - 11:45 AM

ya know what, 33 years of going there and i STILL have not ever seen a bear! they all say they go through the trash at night at our cabins but i never see them. any ideas on a good place to see some? i would love to have a pic of one in person and then run like hell!!!!
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