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#1 RobertP

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 08:36 PM

Hi,

I am new to the forum. Recently we became frequent visitors to Estes to enjoy viewing beaver colony. We just learned that this colony is in danger.

Here is a link explaining the issue:
http://www.eptrail.c...ers/ci_18756863


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Completion of the path may include breaching of the dam, and construction of a rock retaining wall. Such disruption this time of year, could force the beaver colony to move out of the current site. The beaver may then be ill prepared to survive winter in another location, where sufficient water and food is not available.

Does anyone know if the bikepath project was abandoned?
Does anyone know of other venues to express concern?

Thank you!

Robert

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 09:10 PM

As far as I know, that letter and related commentary resulted in a redesign of that section of the path, better to accommodate the beaver colony. I haven't seen anything in either of the EP papers since the various articles around that time. HPH

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 08:22 PM

View PostDrCloud, on 30 September 2011 - 09:10 PM, said:

As far as I know, that letter and related commentary resulted in a redesign of that section of the path, better to accommodate the beaver colony. I haven't seen anything in either of the EP papers since the various articles around that time. HPH

Thanks HPH!
When we were there last time a week ago there was no sign of any construction so I hope you are rigth.

Robert

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:43 AM

Here's an update, a letter that's in the Estes Park Trail-Gazette today (10/7).
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Beaver conflicts along Fish Creek Road not resolved

Dear Editor:

The Estes Valley Recreation and Park District (EVRPD) have begun work on a compacted, crushed stone trail along Fish Creek Road that will likely accommodate trail bikes, walkers, and horse riders. A grant supporting part of the cost of the trail was obtained by the EVRPD from the Colorado State funded agency Great Outdoors Colorado. Concern has been raised by many citizens in Estes Park concerning the potential impact that the trail may have on a colony of beaver that have inhabited a wetland region immediately adjacent to Fish Creek Road. There is very little room to build the trail that was originally designed to consist of a stone retaining wall along the beaver ponds, backfilled with dirt to the level of the road. Approximately 50 citizens of Estes Park attended an informational session held by the EVRPD at the town hall on Aug. 26. In response to the concerns raised by a number of attendees regarding plans to breach the beaver dams during the construction process, Stan Gengler, executive director of EVRPD, agreed to form the "Fish Creek Trail and Beaver Pond committee" to review the trail design as it related to the beaver colony. The committee has met with Mr. Gengler, Michael Richardson, EVRPD board of directors, and Kerry Prochaska from Cornerstone Engineering, who is in charge of the trail design and construction. The committee has met both at the beaver ponds and in conference in order to discuss various options to avoid damage to the beaver colony. Options suggested by the citizens committee to abort completion of the trail, or move the trail to the opposite side of Fish Creek Road from the beaver dams, were not acceptable to EVRPD. There are lines of sight concerns that are encountered with the plan to move that part of the trail near the beaver ponds to the opposite side of Fish Creek Road. The committee also suggested incorporating boardwalks over approximately 600 feet of the proposed trail that is nearest the beaver ponds. Along most of this stretch, there is very little width between Fish Creek Road and the beaver ponds. EVRPD and Cornerstone Engineering have rejected this suggestion based on the higher cost of boardwalk installation compared with the stone wall and backfill originally proposed. Narrowing the trail and allowing it to follow a path just above stream level to avoid the need for the extensive retaining wall, guard rail, and backfill was also rejected.

Cornerstone Engineering has offered a counter proposal to these suggestions. A redesign plan for that section of the trail nearest the beaver ponds, has narrowed the overall width of the trail, bringing the stone wall foundation out of the beaver ponds. Kerry Prochaska has promised that this design change will not only avoid any breach of the existing beaver dams, but will also move the stone wall supporting the trail "out of the beaver pond water." The beaver pond committee agrees that this is an important improvement over the original design.

The committee, and some beaver experts, including Sherri Tippie, director of "Wildlife 2000," are concerned that the construction of the trail along the beaver pond, scheduled for fall of 2011, could drive the beaver out of the ponds. The beaver pond committee requested that construction of the stone wall and trail be postponed until spring of 2012, as the beaver would not survive if they moved out of the ponds late this fall. Rick Spowart, from the Colorado Division of Wildlife, has attended several committee meetings and feels that the beaver would not abandon their ponds this late in the year. All experts admit that it is very difficult to predict how beaver will react during significant disturbance such as constructing a stone wall immediately adjacent to their lodges and ponds. This issue is a major concern for the beaver pond committee, who feels the need to act as advocates for the beaver at Fish Creek Road. The committee members, like many other Estes Park residents, feel strongly that beaver are a vital natural resource that maintain wetlands along the stream and river systems in Estes Park.

The trail and beaver pond committee members are divided with respect to the adequacy of the proposed design changes by Cornerstone Engineering, as well as with the timing of construction for the trail adjacent to the beaver ponds, currently scheduled to occur this fall. We feel that both Stan Gengler and Kerry Prochaska have been very professional and patient in terms of responding to the concerns of the citizen's committee. Protection of wildlife in Estes Park in the face of numerous development projects has always been a contentious issue. The committee members feel that they have accomplished all they can with EVRPD and Cornerstone Engineering in terms of their concerns with the trail construction plan near the beaver colonies. Stan Gengler suggested having a final public hearing regarding the horse trail plan to update the community regarding the current design change. This will occur sometime in October. The announcement for the meeting will be posted in local newspapers. The trails committee will attend this public meeting and advocate in a responsible manner for the beaver colony at Fish Creek Road. The trail and beaver pond committee hopes that anyone concerned about the impact of this proposed trail attend the public meeting and express their opinions.

Trail and Beaver Pond committee: Bill Darden, Susan Wolf, Tom Gootz, Manuella Knoll, Fred Mares, Eli Roehl.

Thomas Gootz

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:20 AM

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 09:27 AM

There's another update on this in today's Trail-Gazette, here.

The upshot is that (i) this didn't just fade away with a bunch of displaced beavers; (ii) the Colorado Dept. of Parks & Wildlife and the local committee advocate agree on everything but the construction date; and (iii) aside from the disagreement about the date, it looks like there will be a low-impact solution to this whole thing. HPH

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 05:36 PM

View PostDrCloud, on 02 November 2011 - 09:27 AM, said:

There's another update on this in today's Trail-Gazette, here.

The upshot is that (i) this didn't just fade away with a bunch of displaced beavers; (ii) the Colorado Dept. of Parks & Wildlife and the local committee advocate agree on everything but the construction date; and (iii) aside from the disagreement about the date, it looks like there will be a low-impact solution to this whole thing. HPH
Thanks for the updates on this. They are concerned about the construction date driving off the beaver.
How about they feed them a few aspen trees to keep them around this winter.... just a thought.

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 07:00 PM

View PostIgloo Ed, on 02 November 2011 - 05:36 PM, said:

Thanks for the updates on this. They are concerned about the construction date driving off the beaver.
How about they feed them a few aspen trees to keep them around this winter.... just a thought.

Ed, that might be a good suggestion to pass to the Estes Park Recreation Dept. people. The state wildlife folks seem to think that a quickie bit of construction this fall wouldn't cause problems, but having some extra food around for the critters could tip the scales in their deciding to hang around. HPH

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 07:52 PM

View PostDrCloud, on 02 November 2011 - 07:00 PM, said:

Ed, that might be a good suggestion to pass to the Estes Park Recreation Dept. people.
I heard Bill's good at that and it'd mean so much more coming out of a Tex'in.
Seriously though, I doubt feeding them a bit would mess up the eco system that much for one year. The Forestry Service ought to know though.
Heh, look at Jackson's elk heard.

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 09:37 AM

I REALLY wish they wouldn't go through with this project. I believe it will compromise the riparian habitat in substantial and irreversible ways. Looking at how the NPS has neglected the beaver for so long, it will take many years, if not decades to repair the damage in RMNP. Now we actually have a thriving colony in EP and the powers that be think this is a good Idea to damage such a local treasure? I know they believe it will be better for the community in the long run, but think about the possible irreversible damage that it will cause now. If they go forward with this, especially this month like they are proposing, the beaver will leave, and die... I'm not willing to take that chance, and I hope they aren't either.

I don't know of a single person that supports this project.

anyway, my :2cents:

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 07:00 AM

There was another report on this in yesterday's Trail-Gazette, here.

At the public meeting, people on both sides spoke up (with many in favor -- even if they're strangers to us here, they're Estes Valley residents). And a new perspective emerged: residents near the ponds are complaining that the beaver colony is destroying a grove of aspens.

The solution -- wire collars around the trunks of the aspen -- has the potential to drive the beavers away; indeed it's certain to, if all the trees are collared, unlike the construction (which only "might", according to one of the advocates for delay).

The trouble with beavers is that they're landscape altering engineers, and if there's food they settle in and make more and more beavers. In a purely natural setting, this can create meadows and ponds. In a semi-urban setting, it can be quite annoying to folks who've spent lots of money on landscaping. Like it or not, the Estes Valley isn't the wilderness any more. HPH

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 03:22 PM

Thanks for your response Cloud. I know there are no black and white decisions in this. I just hope the ones that are made prove to be the correct ones for the future.

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 04:00 PM

I don't think that "correct" is well-defined on this case. HPH

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 09:12 AM

Well, there seems to be optimistic news on this score: http://www.eptrail.com/ci_19806713, although it will no doubt take until Spring (you know, those two weeks in May...) to really tell. When we were in town over the holidays, the crew was hard at work on this section of the trail, and it looked as if they were doing a good job of staying out of the water. HPH

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 11:39 AM

Interesting article. Beyond the other reasons for tolerating wildlife mentioned in the article, residents might want to remember that the wildlife is a large part of their economic base. If there is any doubt, one simply needs to look around town during the elk rut season as people pour into town. In many year, we have chosen Estes over other locations with more fall foliage specifically to see the wildllife.




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